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Star date: 2nd September 2013

ORDSALL RIVERSIDE MASTERPLAN IN TATTERS AS `GREEN BOULEVARD' TO BE INDUSTRIAL UNITS

Salford Council's plans to turn the space directly in front of Ordsall Hall into `Ordsall Green' are set to be torn up, with its planning department recommending the building of twelve industrial units on the site.

The Council purchased the former Vanguard Textiles site with a grant of £4.5million to create "a new quality neighbourhood green space in front of Ordsall Hall that enhances the setting of this Grade 1 listed building". In yer dreams!

Full details here…


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PICNIC IN THE INDUSTRIAL UNITS…

Check out the Ordsall Riverside Masterplan and there's at least half a dozen images in there showing a great big wide open space at the front of Ordsall Hall, labelled `Ordsall Green'... "a large central open part that allows for unobstructed views from the riverside to Ordsall Hall and its grounds. This may comprise grassed areas, pathways or zones with low planting that allow for occasional games and play activities and picnicking…"

Then check out Salford Council's own website to see `what's happening' in Ordsall and read how "the long-term vision for this space is the creation of a green boulevard, framing the newly-reopened and renovated Grade I listed Ordsall Hall and providing a direct walking route between Ordsall Lane and the waterside pathway…"

Now see the planning application for this site - that Salford Council's planners are recommending for approval this Thursday - and see how there's going to be twelve industrial units plonked on the site, divided by a nasty concrete path with 42 spaces for car parking. There won't be many picnics going on here…

Salford Council purchased the former Vanguard Textiles site in 2008, with a £4.5million grant, we understand, from the now defunct North West Development Agency (NWDA), in order to turn the space into a green `boulevard' or park, to open up the view of Ordsall Hall after its £6.5million makeover.

It was to be "a new quality neighbourhood green space in front of Ordsall Hall that enhances the setting of this Grade 1 listed building and opens up views
onto the Hall and its environs from the riverside and Pomona…"
 

Incredibly, the planners at Salford Council have decided that it's now okay for the site to become the home for the `erection of 12 industrial units' by a company called  Digital Village Salford Quays LLP, an offshoot of Capital and Centric plc, builders of Speke Industrial Park in Liverpool, amongst other developments. The company is expecting a grant of £1.1million from the European Regional Development Fund towards the project, so Salford Council is also letting it off with paying its planning contributions of £23.50 per square meter, or a total of £95,316.

The Council planners justify the plonking of the industrial units on what should have been a public green space, contrary to its own policy, primarily because "Whilst the proposed scheme conflicts with UDP policy MX1 and certain policies within the associated Ordsall Riverside Planning Guidance, changes in the market have cast considerable doubt of the achievability of the detailed vision for this part of the Ordsall Riverside Corridor" and that "Market conditions have changed substantially since the Guidance was adopted in 2008"…

Ordsall residents may well be wondering how this affects plans for a green space…some grass seeds and a couple of trees?

Meanwhile, the planners go into double-speak in order to justify the development on the Tudor doorstep of Salford's number one listed building...

• The concrete path that divides the units and allows a slight view of Ordsall Hall – if you dodge between the 42 cars that are coming and going into the parking lots? "It is considered that its main objective in enhancing the setting of Ordsall Hall and opening up views towards the Hall from the riverside is achieved… It is acknowledged though that the space could be greener, that it could align symmetrically with the façade of Ordsall Hall…"

• The stultifyingly boring twelve industrial units? "One of the merits of a relatively simple design is that it does not compete for attention with Ordsall Hall; rather, it allows the merit of the Hall to stand out."

The planners conclude that "It is considered that the proposed development has a considerable beneficial effect on the setting of Ordsall Hall…that re-establishes the historic connection between Ordsall Hall and the waterfront, increasing its visibility and increasing the potential number of visitors."

Incredibly, the only person in Salford who put in a letter supporting the industrial units proposal was the City Council's museums manager… "He states that Ordsall Hall is pleased to see this positive development."

* The planners also conclude that "it is considered that the Council's
ambitions for the area as set out in the Ordsall Riverside Planning Guidance are realistically not going to be met…"

You can say that again!

The industrial units applications goes to Salford Council Planning Panel this Thursday - see here for full proposal (in amongst a million other nasty schemes)

See also previous Salford Star article Ordsall Waterfront Wall Eyesore - click here and follow links and click here for £1.2million funding for MediaCityUK schemes


 

Steve wrote
at 5:49:03 AM on Thursday, September 12, 2013
I was only one of 4 objectors. I spent a great deal of time and effort to give proper justification for my objections. The plans failed many of the councils planning guidance, as well as the planning advice for the completion of Irwell River Park. The planners agreed that my objections were valid, but concluded that in the existing economic climate no other development cold be viable. The report is full of speculation and conjecture, and many assumptions that I would disagree with. An example of one of the many incorrect statements in the report is that there is no demand for housing, despite giving permission for the Derwent Street site now under construction just a few hundred yards from this site. The sales are outstriping expectations at that site as well! Another ridiculous statement says that the economic climate is worse than when the guidance was prepared in 2008, which was at the height of the recession!!! If you read the report, it could have been written by the developers themselves. Dismissing all of my valid objections without any explanation as to why their own planning guidance was being ignored. If the site had to be industrial units, they could have at least been quality, not just build it anywhere trading estate (I am loathe to call it architecture) buildings. It in no way enhances the setting of Ordsall Hall and as it is (sub)standard design, it never could! Until your readers make their thoughts clear by objecting to these ill thought out schemes, the developers will get their way more often than not.
 
mary ferrer wrote
at 12:59:55 AM on Tuesday, September 3, 2013
If the council got a grant for a park, then it should be a park or return the grant. And I note LIVERPOOL has popped up again.Why don't they use some of plots of land across the city that have knee rails and little else. This is showing total disrespect for a building of history, there again that lot up at the civic don't have ANY respect for anything of history or culture
 
Brian Francis Kirkham wrote
at 6:04:32 AM on Monday, September 2, 2013
Quick suggestion - This proposal gets Mothballed, and doesn't go for approval until the developers have sorted the mess they've already created. Yes the new developments look nice - but look around them and observe the mess left about. Phoebe St has been prettied up (it had to be, now there's a hotel and health centre on the field o' radclyffe school) but the pedestrian access? challenge walk from Jennings avenue to west park street without going the long way - the school corridor is poorly lit and full o' potholes (ironically, the "Traffic calming measures" of the 80s are still there - couldn't LPC shift them during demolition of the estate?)
 
Mario Durante wrote
at 6:04:29 AM on Monday, September 2, 2013
Another typical example of the disgraceful disregard the council have for the feelings of local residents and the citizens of Salford for our true piece of history. They have never learned in all the changes theyve made to Salford over the years and are about to show the same disrespect for our treasured hall.
 
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